At PAX East, developers and journalists discuss and handicap the NAVGTR Awards races with last-minute predictions just hours before the winners are announced in each category, in one of the weekend’s final panels.
Moderated by Ken Gagne of PC World, guest panelists include Susan Arendt, editor-in-chief of The Escapist, Jesse Cox, co-host of the Gamestation podcast, Charles Battersby of Explosion.com, and Will Brierly of Snowrunner Productions and Soda Drinker Pro, downloaded by 10 million popheads.
Transcript below.
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afternoon everybody thank you for coming to this panel it’s been a wonderful
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weekend I hear people are already leaving to go home but as long as you
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were here
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packs continues so thank you for being here sure
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I I’m these are the navigator awards the will win should win panel
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Navigator is a nonprofit founded in 2001
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to recognize the accomplishments on the video game industry
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every year over six hundred representatives up video game magazines
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web sites podcast radio stations and newspapers
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all vote on what they think we’re the best games of the past year
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in over 50 categories from best animation best script writing best
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supporting character
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and we have with us today a panel industry professionals
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to represent the masses and tell us when
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the masses are wrong so who will win and who
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should win tip you’re always from sometimes that does that
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always gets a laugh oh my god how tired are you
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your big black that i’d give you permission to speak
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I will fly off the stage of this state okay I’ve been chided by the minute
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producer yet I now i can say anything this is somebody who’s in a lot of
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trouble
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along with her at this and my name is Ken gag me I’m a freelance writer for PC
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world
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which about a year and a half ago absorb it was left to GamePro
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so if you love game for over 20 years while now PC world
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sucked in their souls that’s where they are now I’m also on the faculty at
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Emerson College in Boston right eat online publishing
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yeah Emerson group so Anaheim
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immediately to my left foot is merely to your right is Suzanne arms
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editor in chief up the Escapist thank you
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animee leads and down the line we have Jesse Cox cohost love the game station
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podcast
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the lovely individual. next to jesse is Charles batters be
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love act explosion dot com was just turned 1 year old one
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last month graduation think
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I’d Charles you have a
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unusual a tiger today yes I just came from a panel on transgender
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characters in video games and I’m representing
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my homies from the Third Street Saints in Saints Row 3 so
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that’s why I’m range is that’s class is so not the Baroness from Cobra
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now Martin just wanna make where the class is going to give it away
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yeah the the pink ones too yeah you’re lucky my forehead is completely blind
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York Tom and finally we have will Brierley of soda drinker pro he is the
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inventor
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the inventor of the FPS most people think it was john romero but it’s
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actually
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will Brierley invented the FPS the first person so down
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it has been downloaded over a hundred thousand times
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and access over 50 million times so anywhere you want to drink your car be a
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beverage he can take you there
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through thank you will so as I mention we have over 50 categories but you’ll be
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reviewing only some the most are contentious
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and interesting once a day so while we start right away
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with I control design 2d or limited 3d
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on this chart I’m sure this is a statistics shouldn’t
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nightmare costar validate a sample we have four individuals here who voted
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and the blue line is who they think should win as oppose the orange line
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which they think
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will win the most common both in the will be in our
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market the ninja and Somerville is you but nobody actually
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things that Mario should I think it will cover the popular but it doesn’t deserve
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it
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why don’t we have we’ll talk a little bit about this yeah
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you know I mean I played through I I
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have a Wii U and I at Leviton everything and back a
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I believe that a lot just because
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who is the only game that I wanted for anything in it was like
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so I figured it’s probably going to win just because everyone you know that was
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the thing that they they bout with it
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and in a place great it’s a was a great game you know is very similar to the
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Americans marketing manager
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some really need some beautiful stuff there’s furs
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controls so it’s a you know that I feel like they’re doing is really interesting
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things
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so yes as gonna wear that do you think that
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home there’s been a Wii U game which as we all know is
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the Wii U consoles selling believe very poorly surprisingly poorly do you think
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that that
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plays a role or are we looking purely at the quality of the game for girls
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who actually is or is not playing you know I feel like with
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mario Wii U is it was just so similar to other married it was on the ground
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breaking anything with with
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soon you know marrow 64 came out that like really represented the system
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and while you know the Wii U
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game I doesn’t fun things everything like a the two-player aspects of the
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week and Ron screen is pretty interesting everything but like
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it didn’t everyone wishes felt like a at least the anti-government as a people
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like oh yeah that’s like an extra thing
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know here is usually he is like it had to have but it wasn’t like
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no I mean G I felt like the camera control and marriage 64 was enough to be
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groundbreaking the way that they did that was
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know that that alone in the fact that it’s an excellent game really
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you know me then 1064 standout
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you know it’s wonderful system so so too I think
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who beanie if if they really and I really room for Nintendo I hope they
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you know blow me away I haven’t contingency they both yet that I just
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love that stuff
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like it just the I keep only going to look and feel like it’s the new game
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you something means you notice it’s great for watching you to that but yeah
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it like in that nothing like like you know when I
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Italy watch YouTube on it all the time so it’s awesome
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for that you known none of your appear to be anonymous who’s the one person who
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voted for
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escape plan so I totally did and why is that
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cuz I like because I was there was different I mean
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II as much as I love Mario
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you were right on I feel like it’s is more the same
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in orphanages awesome so I can’t complain about that but i i
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thoughts good time was just a terrific little game that I was like um
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thrown my vote in for that shorten the but as you
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as you can see it’s a should win not aware when I don’t think goodwill
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you deserves the recognition when I was just thinking at the end of this week in
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city it’s a
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to the limited 3d ahead interesting control that’s not on a list the surgeon
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simulator
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at that had some really interesting controls
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so the servants Emilio’s surgeon simulator on Saturday so yes yes I did
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yeah
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as for to get isn’t a he fell off the toilet now needs a heart transplant
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yes something like that yeah gripping narrative their
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yet any other dissenting opinions are
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about mark in the ninja I mean game designers have been trying to
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she warned stealth gameplay and a 2d games for
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you know decades and I reverend awful campaign in game from the 90’s for the
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Game Boy Color
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where I they tried to do this and she was supposed to be slinky and stealthy
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and it didn’t work
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and marking an engine is the first time I really seen stealth gameplay
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in two dimensions that actually build the same way that it with
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a three-dimensional game also I mean for me
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control should be something that you’re thinking about
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you know if you when you’re playing a game you’re thinking about I do this to
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jump I do this to
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whatever the control has broken down at a certain point
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it’s when it it’s so see wasn’t effortless that it just
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you kinda absorb it and then your that much closer to the actual
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game on that make you like angela has really succeeded mr. contingent did that
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you were never conscious about and this is what i do to get to the shadows in
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this is what I do
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just did it and that really added a lot
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to its personality and that the wonderful stop it pulled off brilliantly
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its lot games.try style than what they what they mean by still doesn’t want a
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lot of people
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want from South but I felt like my covenant to deliver that and then
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the control %uh for design really really hope that a great deal it kind of gave
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extra boost is control easier to get right in 2d and 3d
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probably yeah I mean your camera is a lot easier to deal with
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so you that’s one less thing that the player has to worry about for sure
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and at two games tend to be by nature simpler than three games for a variety
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of reasons
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so then you’re typically with your control so there’s less to get
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in the way the the less information you have to process about doing whatever it
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is you’re supposed to be doing
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the more you can process about your adventure your
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the story the adventure the still the whatever you how
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so 22 games are better great ok I guess are yeah
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up also the Wii U sucks I’m sorry I’m just I gotta
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now I’m gonna push you off a stable fools day
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on any other dissenting opinions that you wish to share with us your welcome
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to tweet throughout the show
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we have our are at symbol at the bottom there are screen name on Twitter so just
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tweet
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at navigator and will see that and toward the end of the show
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that I will be taking questions from the audience thank you
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moving on do connects
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category costume design Costume Quest sorry
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came in 2011 I think so it was not eligible but we do have some interesting
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choices we
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have a majority who thinks that Assassin’s Creed will win
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nobody thinks it should when basically its anything but Assassin’s Creed please
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please let anything else when we have votes for Usher has wrapped Final
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Fantasy 13 to Mass Effect 3 and
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WWE 13 so while we hear from Charles on this category
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well this is the same thing happens with the Oscars in many in the design
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categories where the serious historical drama
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wins all the awards even when there are science fiction fantasy pieces
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that are clearly much better in terms of costume design and
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you know this year Cloud Atlas didn’t win but
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link in with its very serious I’m
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you know realistic Recreation’s have historical garments
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that wine and in in this case it seems like well
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Assassin’s Creed is you know it’s the more legitimate
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thing wear the costume designer had to go research things
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up but if you look around hacks through the last weekend
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how many Mass Effect and Final Fantasy cause players did you see
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and how many people did you see dressing as a non assassin character
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from Assassin’s Creed the and so he in turn to design
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judging the costume in a game look at the cars players
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so for release a look at the consular so
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I did not consider that approach because their costume designs might be quite
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different from
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but in the game well it’s about I mean looking at the college players is
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what’s resonating with people what’s connecting with them you know when you
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see someone walking around in full us sorry year
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that 8 comfortable so clearly
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someone who’s willing to go through an entire con like that back character and
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that’s
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if that ik has connected with them you know and i own a very fundamental level
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and
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yeah not not a lot of people from a colonial Boston walking around
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and that raises the question of if someone were dressed in a
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colonial government how would you know that that is specifically from
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Assassin’s Creed
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and they’re not just a historical you know house to hear you know but when
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someone’s in in a sari outfit
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or you no harm of all n7 suit of armor
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you know that’s distinctly Mass Effect and not some space carry
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in and your thoughts on costume design
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I could just it’s the simplest thing
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but that n7 logo
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is so impactful II
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ever that has to do with emotional connection to the game naturally
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and it just being iconic and so associated with the Normandy and
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Shepherd and its its meant to be representative
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%uh everything from the universe but just seeing that
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logo on hoodies and jackets and t-shirts and stuff is
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is really really about Kevin really moving because when you see it
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you go right back to your love for the game it’s very similar to when you see
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someone ’cause playing as
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someone from Final Fantasy or someone from penny
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other game that isn’t Assassin’s Creed I
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you know except for maybe the sexy clementine that I saw that single
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inappropriate
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yes I did see that aidid I know I can see it
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um but you know you just assault I would’ve loved to have seen service or
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as raft costly that would be amazing
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up but you know when you get these I Joseph excellent point you know
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if you saw someone walking around in korea Boston guard
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you wouldn’t go how great justice Cricut libro be
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it’s just has no flavor might be accurate it might be really really well
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rendered
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but its but great and also colonial costumes in Boston aren’t all that
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uncommon
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your point value goes on go to the Freedom Trail near there every five
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minutes points out
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but I guess the reason why people would say will win is the transition from
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real-life costuming and
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period piece to video games we’re gonna recreate those
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in it non real format i think thats
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that’s why probably deserves to when but I mean we we render most
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things realistically others I mean if you look at what something like a love
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duty all the you know
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with with guns and there you know freedom clip size and stuff like that
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our
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vehicles or anything like that we’re entering real life stuff
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beautifully and perfectly games already so they should get
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an extra boost just cuz it’s cool oh that’s why I said should was a sore as
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rafters and that’s in
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in same yeah classroom and so now
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I’m with you on that and maybe there’s a perception that if it’s based on a real
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thing
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requires more accuracy whereas someone designing a plasma rifle
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for a spacesuit can just do whatever they want and more
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be judged on how authentic they are
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but I think it’s for something like Mass Effect it would have been so
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easy for to look goofy you know
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like they what I really felt like a Mass Effect is not only does it look like
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yeah okay this actually makes sense as clothing and make sense
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in the universe but different cultures had different ways addressing and
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different aesthetics
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and and different clothing styles which would make sense
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and they there was real thought put into you depicting different kinds of culture
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ru the clothing which is a very very subtle thing to do is very son a way to
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get narrative across
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on which is might really I never would have guessed
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months little up about my love for Mass Effect so no consensus on this one
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except not please not assassins creed
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greats mean on we have next up game design
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a brand new intellectual property which is hard to come by from major studios
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nowadays so many
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sequels and reboots and remakes many than welcome like duck tales
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who by as far as this category goes we have
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to real contenders there were six games
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seven games that we voted on and we came up but the consensus that everybody
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thinks
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journey will win most people think journey
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should win except for one person but market and ingestion
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I will want you take a lead on this one yeah you know
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I I think a I was just
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pretty impressed with with the the creativity and what’s going on
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journey I think that’s that’s -ism E
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that’s where I’m at with this gambit magnetism beautiful stuff so it’s
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it sit there was a tough decision for me you know I I think
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its probably a tough decision for a lot of people I don’t know
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that’s just my opinion it Sep but I think as far as
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going into new places both the commercially
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journey kenna thats its
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gonna get you know why I think it was a tough decision for that
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developers as well then they essentially go bankrupt making that game
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in you know athletes line they had no more money and they just kept making the
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game anyway
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yet but I have that’s how we do it you know like me.if you know I feel like if
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you’re gonna make something like
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and lease if you like for like me a liar is like you do it
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if you even if you’re starving you know like you you probably still keep on
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going on
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you know if it’s a and I feel like that comes across in it you know like if if
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like I think it has a lot of the guys in the looting told me is like
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that is like sense and get it was gonna
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interviews like ’em you know you did
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get what do you say to someone’s day in this business areas like you know ye
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he better be willing to die for this basically in like I think when you
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we need you you can make some pretty good I you know it’s a
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so so the it has to hurt basically yeah I mean it doesn’t have to but like
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if you should be willing to go there you know do take
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its you know it sometimes things go through their whatever but it’s like
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but the passion as like it’s gotta be you get a
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you gonna get some interesting places when he stepped away at that you know
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and it’s a
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a I think it comes a grass in the years since I think magnetism
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pretty neat stuff like that but but in the end that’s as I feel with Jamie
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is gonna get I was listening to the Chatterbox video game radio show
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broadcast
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and they had a very different opinion they felt that
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journey isn’t even a game really and that it just avoids all the problems
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that were trying to overcome
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with it the emerging technologies that we have and that this is not what we
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should be putting forward as representative of our industry
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and yet here we are thinking that it’s one of the best games the year
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yeah you know it’s me yet
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it’s a tough for you know there’s a lot of ways you could describe a game you
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know
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but I think it’s the line between you know creating something interactive that
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you gonna it’s gonna end up making you feel something
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you know like and i think thats wat the you know it’s like it depends on what
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you want to do you know like if you want
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a game to be just like this like really like I like running around
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getting making burgers and record and it’s pretty satisfying you know like it
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has
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but mom exactly it’s it’s like no other my favorite games in like
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you know and hassle a role in a buzz in Katima reno like
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they all do different things that make you feel stuff and
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you know it sometimes is just awesome just ripping through people in Contra
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you know like Cilic they’re all these different things he can do and I feel
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like
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you know the the rules as far as what makes a game
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he it doesn’t this is every be like school or
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or on you know you be did
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or you know it’s its it’s a can be anything
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you know in at Sir that’s what I like away
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you know that they have really love about 30 oliver
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for me what I was really torn between what some discerning dishonored actually
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just because I love the world
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that this morning created on if you look at the other
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games on this list you got
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dishonored fez you’ve got my engines on check day but
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if you want to describe them to someone pretty easy to do
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you know your duties after event it’s a platform reeve as
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it’s an RPG whatever and then you go to explain journey
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and you don’t have the vocabulary and you can’t really
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tell someone I mean you could tell somebody what you do you know yet
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you walk to a mountain the end but that’s not
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the game right like in order to really get the game you
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have to have experience because it’s so very personal
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its it’s something unique to every single player
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so you can’t just say oh it’s a it’s a thing where you do it
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because cuz that’s not it that doesn’t happen
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that’s really special so that was
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that was my thought juries should and would win we say that you don’t have the
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vocabulary to describe journey
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journey doesn’t have a cap Peter Peloquin tweeted
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journey convey story with no words the active journey is more powerful than
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words
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your on and crystal two months now do you think journey will have an impact on
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how game design is thought about as far as narrative goes
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out of the question there’s no doubt yeah I mean the just the idea that
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you can tell tell a really powerful and emotional story
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with such limited to all set you can talk to each other
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in game chat you know there’s no movie columns going off
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there’s there’s not a bad its also very very basic the core gameplay
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very very basic and get your I’m this incredible
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emotional shared experience
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on that tells a story and and it tells
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a very personal story so I think absolutely that
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or at least I hope God I hope that future developers will be
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looking in and wondering how they can incorporate some of that freshness and
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some others new ideas into the way they can
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wonderful I was the the sole dissenter on this
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and for those views on things ver for those who don’t know I know journey
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you it’s about a group of people in burgers who take a pilgrimage through
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the desert
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to a mystical mountain and you know I was just concerned it might be an al
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Qaeda indoctrination program
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so I was something nice and safe lie
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job market the ninja which i think is good for
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a terrific job love taking all the ninja gameplay that we’ve developed over the
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last
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thirty years have ninja games and really making a terrific
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Newnan GA game great
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moving on to the next slide which is a game design in a franchise as opposed to
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a new IP
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and again very diverse selection in the will win category
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have you think far cry 3 women with the Argos going for
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Assassin’s Creed 3 x.com and again should win have you think far cry 3
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deserves to win I don’t know if those the same to people who think
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will win by no books for call of duty:
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or the news Meyer brothers or 0 scape
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so Jesse what do you think I
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a.m. definitely want people who are a far cry 3 on their
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I E it’s a game
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yes where
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where you play as the biggest douchebag ever
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fighting the most likable pirate every the
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in a world where you’re supposed to be saving friends you don’t care about
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and the only scary thing are the animals not the parents actively trying to kill
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you
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eats the I can’t describe you I felt like going in was to me honey parents
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I fear for my life just walking around the jungle
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that’s what I love about this game shocks are horrifying
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alligators horrifying dogs
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just come out of nowhere attack you him when that’s
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the gameplay you’re trying to go see your stupid friend who
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you don’t know why you’re trying to save them the flashbacks like
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your awesome for years the I came describe how much I love this game
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its its stellar in that its
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insane I think that’s the whole point up the game even even
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there’s a great piece a dialogue about you know the definition
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%uh insanity and so I feel like that’s the entirety of the game
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eats breezy pants and
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I love everything about it and that’s why I was like all these are the games
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are good
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but this ones like you know what just push it over the edge
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and that’s relevant when you come up on a group of pirates and then you realize
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a tiger is attacking them and you’re like
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have allotted I vividly remember a time when I found the town
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that I was close to find parts there in the town was taken over by those
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whatever those birds are called taken over the town I get out just a kilometre
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I was like
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this is why I love this kid I now there are no boats here who think that Mass
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Effect 3 will win
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I is that because of the NBN court on it with a question I’m so sick of hearing
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about the the game was the game was good to get his brilliance
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okay like I respect if you don’t like the ending I completely respect that I
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understand that the game is brilliant
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and if you’re going to write it off because the five minutes shame
24:38
on you right so there
24:41
but it’s not really enough to win
24:49
I so appreciate so many things the park retreated
24:52
up Best Actor at I love but really it’s just picking up
24:56
the Mass Effect two ball and taking it all the way into the end zone
24:59
right like most of what is so awesome about Mass Effect 3
25:03
was already there and and Far Cry 3 I thought
25:07
just brought so much new to the table on
25:10
that’s why I thought the gym well I miss disagree with you there
25:13
woooooo up that you know what makes
25:17
far Mass Effect 3 such a great franchise installment is that it picks up on
25:22
things that developers plan right from the beginning making it
25:25
trilogy sure do in terms of you know a franchise game
25:29
it’s not just you know Assassin’s Creed the new one called
25:33
do team this year its that final
25:36
peace love a trilogy that was planned that way from the beginning so you’re
25:40
appreciating the connectivity than
25:41
exactly that franchise that completely makes sense you even the Far Cry 3 is
25:45
also the third
25:46
answers it’s the third in a series by I’m not sure that when
25:50
the created the first Far Cry game they had planned in advance for
25:55
you know a right yes evening it’s not a trilogy per se
25:58
yes it’s just another sequel yes got far Cry
26:01
than one that’s that’s really an excellent when I had not thought about
26:04
that those
26:05
next we have up lead performance in a Drama
26:09
we have many votes that Dave
26:14
from The Walking Dead will win and yet again we have a lot of
26:18
vote for Far Cry should when just see again
26:21
what you think I I E I feel like
26:25
day for noise on a roll back I hit that and he is winning a war after war
26:29
I but truly believe he will win again but
26:33
with that said Michael mando
26:37
that right there that role was
26:40
he when and I don’t know how much because actually true
26:45
like the legend on this character but he went and it was a minor character and
26:49
they were like you don’t work to make more of a character for you because you
26:52
were so good at this
26:53
and if you play Far Cry 3 he steals the show
26:56
yeah advance the care yes us is amazing
27:00
and so that’s that in the first five minutes a game play that’s the reason
27:03
why you’re
27:04
continuing to play is his opening speech and walking through the campus he just
27:07
goes crazy on people
27:09
he’s what gets you to play the entire rest the game you want to meet him again
27:13
and so you this stellar job
27:16
that’s why I think you should II unfortunate hope you will
27:20
and why won’t he went
27:24
I I almost feel like
27:27
it’s just they said you be crazy version of yourself a guy I mean
27:32
if you if you ever see interview user it seems like
27:36
he this was the one his really like this is like this is what you make
27:40
Ford and said
27:43
when you look at the character the for example order
27:46
definitely has been if you did played Starcraft East harsh
27:50
he’s got a lot of really great rules under his belt I think that this is
27:54
is time to stand be like give me the words thank you I think I think you went
27:58
simply because there’s just so much love for walking dead
28:01
i mean one dad people did not expect it
28:04
to be as freakin amazing as it was and its
28:08
all about Lee I mean levy
28:11
is the heart and soul that game and so naturally people want to reword that: on
28:16
for me though for bachus is walking talking sax man
28:21
I here’s the thing though:
28:25
this this is a whirlpool percent
28:29
who does horrible things
28:32
coming to the back I mean he’s horrible he’s a psychopath and you like this
28:38
he is hot okay in him
28:41
he he he moves and talks and the mocap on it is brilliant but the entire
28:46
performance
28:47
he moves like a predator you know he moves like a panther
28:50
and the fact that you’re still so drawn to him
28:54
this person that you should shoot in the head the first chance you for King dad
28:58
or is an amazing performance because
29:02
you you’re looking at a digital creation
29:05
you know that is being brought to life by this actor and the fact that through
29:09
his performance
29:10
he has made someone so repellent so compelling
29:13
i think is absolutely fantastic also get hot
29:17
and I know is that we only have three votes up on the screen did want you
29:21
abstain on this or did you just not there on fill out the survey
29:23
still obtaining okay
29:28
well then moving on yeah supporting
29:31
performance in a Drama again we have a lot of different characters here live
29:36
different actors
29:37
and the majority for will win and should win is the
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character of Clementine from The Walking Dead but we also have up there
29:46
mister scratch from Alan Wake’s American Nightmare
29:50
Susan since you like disturbing character i0
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I we think we deserve get I’m the one person you would have reduced
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I’m I clementine the performance go upon a time is amazing because
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it’s so easy to get the character but child wrong
30:04
there either just a very short adult %ah
30:07
or you know speaking would it be acting in speaking with a more sophisticated
30:12
Lee than they should
30:13
%ah or their super and knowingly glowingly cute and perfect
30:18
there’s a tiny little angel you know which is it’s just very very easy to get
30:22
children wrong
30:23
in a variety of ways and Clementine acts like a little girl
30:26
like it actual little over that is trying to process
30:31
all the things that are happening to the performance is incredible and and
30:34
and I do think shipment that but
30:37
but how how many have you have played Alan Wake
30:42
not usually enough reason why
30:45
I yeah so I’m to fill those of you in i
30:48
Alan Wake is a game about a writer and his alter ego
30:52
mister scratch is 8
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psychopathic homicidal maniac who kills people
30:59
and lanes Alan for it and so he’s basically the manifestation have
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alan’s guilt and presentment and and and and American Nightmare
31:07
he’s each healing I mean he’s truly truly terrifying
31:12
and the pact with what they’ve performed so amazing is sector
31:16
playing Alan the hero and and mister scratch
31:19
and so you’ve got Alan good got yes I’m just I just wanna see my place again
31:22
and I just wanna make this right and oh my gosh this is so crazy and you
31:25
empathize with them
31:26
completely and you want to help them succeed because he’s just
31:30
his a good and decent guy and the exact same person
31:33
is then mister scratch hooch just loses
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menace as he smiling you
31:40
eats one near me creepy and its
31:43
8 again it’s something that could have been very over the top and cartoonish
31:47
it could have been the you know who have a psychobilly ended
31:51
you know just push it way too far and but he
31:54
holes it back in just enough to be
31:57
you really uncomfortable every single scene with him in it
32:02
you’re just so on comfortable
32:05
and that’s a really hard thing to pull off because it’s a subtle
32:09
whereas bus was just completely over the top bosses
32:12
vases totally over the top but its it’s just a magnificent
32:17
kinda up chained energy
32:20
with them mom so they’re its its they’re both depictions in evil but
32:25
very very different I agree that the Alan Wake franchise has
32:29
terrific voice work you know throughout both games
32:32
but I think the reason why Walking Dead is winning these awards for
32:36
for voice work is that the the series doesn’t have flash the mechanics
32:41
need it relies on your interaction with the characters and what they’re saying
32:46
I even though their sequences we do shoots not shoot zombies
32:50
its it’s those performances that are you’re driving the game
32:54
and there’s is a great moment in the second chapter of it
32:58
where clementine makes a reference to how the Salt Lick
33:02
tastes at the farm and leases did you like it
33:05
and there’s this little paws and the voice actors as No
33:08
and you just know from that performance that she didn’t and he brings a little
33:12
note over
33:13
you know humor to this really tense situation
33:17
and you know that that’s why Walking Dead is you know getting this great
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response
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a great point very difficult to compare these performances because they’re
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there so completely different I mean mister scratching Clemente couldn’t be
33:27
Morea you know entitled
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okay next up we have writing in a Comedy
33:35
and their is again quite a few divides we have a lot of votes that
33:40
Borderlands to will win but nobody thinks
33:43
we have a lot of dogs that Batman 2 should win
33:47
but not many people think it will and Thomas was alone again one person thinks
33:51
it should when
33:53
but it because reserve it was late
33:56
for me to have so we’ll way down the entire
34:00
we haven’t forgotten you I like Thomas was alone to evict the billionaire
34:04
yea at this so charming and and release we and that
34:08
II has really fun and funny am
34:11
at so that I was definitely way
34:15
I think you in I think you the late games are always
34:18
pretty funny you know they they nason in you know sweetness F in there
34:22
berlin’s at some some pretty sweet salty this race jokes
34:25
and so it’s a it’s a tough one but I that’s where I was going here the times
34:29
was owners
34:30
precal you know and I the funny her
34:34
the now with Batman again this is a the latest game in a long long long
34:39
franchise
34:39
LEGO Games out why should this one win
34:43
was that the additional voice acting that makes it so much more comedic than
34:46
its predecessors
34:47
its its its the voice acting helps immensely
34:51
and then it’s the Batman Superman dynamic in that game
34:54
is show host hole where r ES
34:57
cuz superman is completely oblivious to the fact that he’s just
35:01
hissing Batman of the entire time its sole
35:05
funny and its it’s really
35:08
it’s nice to have clean
35:11
humor like just really genuinely
35:14
funny stuff yeah that is 100 percent family-friendly
35:18
on the sample I’m yeah and I it that’s that was really really refreshing
35:22
at as she like sometimes you see these these family things with a train sneak
35:27
in jokes for the adult unlike
35:29
oh you mean I can laugh at like nice jokes do you like and I like
35:32
the silly checks whether a bit like it think they’re like
35:35
we got something for you but I’ll you knowing names the
35:39
but that the helical they do that there they go
35:42
if you like does that a good job you know that they do a good job at that
35:46
school as anybody consider on the rain-slick precipice to be
35:49
family-friendly
35:53
my hands on the fam yeah it so perfect for yours is an
35:58
well my my family that a dog and cat cell
36:01
you know for her yes I
36:05
got you 0 well I think if you must be just a terrified if we didn’t vote for
36:09
Penny Arcade
36:10
Mike and Jerry would come down here and beat us up with cardboard to so
36:15
I after their games are great but I just didn’t get beat up
36:19
I’m surprised but get at least one vote for Obama’s big adventure
36:23
yes the Marriott today would even play it II in
36:26
re: it’s a it’s a fight bit scary as a web-based game yeah is its is really
36:30
funny
36:31
it’s a picky every data that
36:34
it’s pretty awesome I I don’t know if they’re
36:39
if I don’t know if it came out for this year that but I put frank factions
36:42
energy
36:42
that thick that was like a sneaky funny like it but I know if that counts for
36:47
this year last year
36:48
or so that would be like that one got me and
36:52
really special face by and if that is much like
36:55
like you know reading in a company just like I’m gonna make you laugh like
37:00
really cool way
37:03
before more like we talk a little aboard a plan for getting some tweets from the
37:06
audience one person feels that
37:08
Borderlands is more adult humor and so deserves a vote the other person if
37:11
under some real says Orleans to was more annoying than funny
37:14
so okay up
37:17
annoying in what way like just the jokes: got on your nerves
37:21
Pacific claptrap okay I love claptrap
37:24
I will defend him it know that I actually they are
37:28
this is so late Lynn likes claptrap it’s not like tiny
37:33
teen ot 18 yeah okay i’d
37:36
up you for their its it it’s pretty much one way or the other I for for people
37:40
like
37:41
they like the character but the actual voiced home
37:44
is what got to them on and it i think thats just very much
37:48
where you’re tuned sounds like claptrap think to like boys town
37:52
yeah yeah we’re going to school areas its
37:56
absolutely hilarious and I love games that don’t take themselves too seriously
38:00
but has a anybody’s play Lego Batman 2:
38:05
okay so you know Superman minutes per game store for
38:09
fans powerful that’s inappropriate family games
38:14
so Illini it’s pay-back
38:18
so we went this is Ryan comedy now we have a reading in a Drama
38:21
a clear win for The Walking Dead will win
38:26
we also have some books for Spec Ops the line Mass Effect 3
38:29
should win but probably won’t again broke because it’s
38:33
just carrying the ball but let’s hear from Charles about this well this is i
38:36
category where
38:37
there are several contenders that I’m sure everyone had a really tough time
38:40
choosing between these
38:42
and with spec ops the line when he was announced
38:46
my immediate response was 00 Spec Ops used to be a thing that existed ten
38:49
years ago
38:51
at and then when it actually came out and I you know started playing
38:54
you know the preview build at the I realized a little ways into it having
38:59
done the research was like oh wait we’re doing hard hardness
39:02
this is brilliant and you know I was just ecstatic to find
39:05
that it wasn’t a big Hollywood movie they decided to do
39:09
hey let’s make our darkness but put it in you know modern
39:13
you know military setting but he was video game company that said
39:16
we have to do this and yes so that game
39:19
in particular was just brilliant and requires you to have done your homework
39:23
and read the book or at least seen Apocalypse Now up before playing the
39:28
game
39:28
in order to appreciate but the other two major games here
39:32
Mass Effect 3 again it’s a brilliant story and even if you didn’t like
39:37
the last five minutes of it you had 40-50 hours have awesomeness
39:42
before you get to the point where some people were disproportionately
39:46
outraged I think that the response was just wildly disproportionate
39:52
to what was you know actually a pretty good inclusion for for the story
39:56
hand with The Walking Dead well you know I
39:59
think it’s just a little better than the other gains in the category
40:04
I and not the other games weren’t terrific but walking dead just had such
40:08
a
40:08
powerful story where know there are moments where
40:11
I’m sure many of us were shocked that a particular
40:15
turn of events occurred and also Blatter
40:19
well I think it’s this is a very closely tied category 2
40:22
the best foreign characters very hard to have a good character when you don’t
40:25
have a good script
40:26
no matter how good the actor is know the there are only as good as the material
40:31
you gotta have both
40:35
moving on no ext we have the best
40:39
franchise fighting game and we have
40:42
one small vote for per persona 4 arena
40:47
I wonder who voted for that now we have a lot of votes for Street Fighter X
40:51
Tekken
40:53
but Susan since you’re so immediately vocal I don’t you need to call on you
40:57
just take go ahead thing I appreciate about
41:01
persona 4 arena is that it’s time to tell a story
41:04
and story is something back gets a pass
41:08
in fighting games most the time that’s understandable why because fighting
41:11
games are about the mechanics
41:13
on it’s about the competition it’s it’s not really about
41:16
the narrative to look at that and I respect that but I thought that persona
41:21
persona 4 arena tried something
41:24
different while also making all really good fighter it’s a really well tuned 2d
41:31
fighter in very much
41:32
you know the BlazBlue Guilty Gear frame so I I appreciated that it was
41:37
it was and I you know persona thorough RPG’s so this was
41:41
very very much experiment for them and I appreciated that they were trying
41:44
something
41:46
fresh while also trying to make a really good fighting game
41:50
%ah which a lot of frequently when when people go
41:54
will try something different day forget to
41:57
put the mechanics in there as well at but that it happen in this case I really
42:01
really respected that
42:02
on I don’t think many people unfortunately played which is why I
42:05
think street for women also when you think
42:07
fighter you think Street Fighter I mean you go break their
42:11
om so i i think that that’s just kind of got that we’ll see
42:14
build freight into it on but I wanted to at least acknowledge that someone was
42:19
trying to do something fresh and new in this genre
42:23
I’m a little biased towards any game to let you play as a transexual dominatrix
42:27
so and I’m also a long time Capcom
42:30
fans alike by Susan said it is the the big
42:33
Capcom nerds that you know it’s just synonymous with the findings
42:38
the fighting genre and that’s why it’s getting this big sweep
42:41
yet one one break dissenter I mean I knew it wouldn’t wouldn’t
42:50
now I’m a big picture computing d guide corny the donation be able to get on the
42:55
Metro Council room
42:56
this year and even I’m not surprised to see no books for
43:00
caretaker because it was a surprisingly not an improvement over the original
43:06
now and let intact it was released for every platform
43:11
I excellent
43:14
okay the I I don’t think it was a teacher
43:17
okay so fair you just went right for the game that you knew was going to win
43:21
you you crazy nope you know honestly um I went into persona 4 arena going oh god
43:26
this is just the tragic
43:28
I because I I really expected it’s a JRPG franchise and now they’re going to
43:32
Turkey
43:32
fighters white and was just amis
43:35
that day really took the care and attention to make store
43:39
whatever else they did that foundation its solid mechanics was in there
43:44
was really really pop how much a role that you’re low expectations
43:47
playing go I doesn’t that’s a fair point of view what if you go in not expecting
43:52
the moon and the stars and
43:53
and they do something really well on now I
43:57
I don’t think it factored in that much but I do you up I
44:00
I do it what’s true freshman doing this for ever you know taken been doing it
44:03
forever
44:04
if they’re making good games will good or they should because they’ve been
44:06
doing it for ever
44:08
you know cell %ah I just what that’s why when you turn onto
44:11
two-person so their virgin outing deserves a special
44:15
exam acknowledged great on good for them
44:19
so but see nearing the end here
44:23
are best franchise role playing game
44:26
we have okay that is for votes not five it looks like five
44:30
II did not vote on this by G Mass Effect 3 will win and should win over Diablo 3
44:37
Kingdom Hearts 3d and torchlight 2
44:40
are Charles can you tell us why out well in
44:43
this case it’s a terrific game up but if you follow the franchise from the
44:48
beginning
44:48
it slowly shifted from a future role player
44:52
hybrid into a game that’s almost entirely shooter
44:57
and if you choose your your preferences right at the start of the game
45:00
you can remove just about all the role-playing elements
45:03
up the game and just play through has a
45:07
default Space Command ok I and so it’s slowly shifted away from the actual
45:13
RPG roots they came with the game the king with the series
45:16
beginning and it’s just such a terrific game that I think
45:20
everyone is willing to forgive that and a lot of the fans
45:23
are actually choosing to focus on the role play elements that are still
45:28
in the series in terms of character-building and
45:32
choosing your path in the narrative we have no
45:36
original games in here these are all sequels is it
45:39
hard to tell a good story in just one game
45:44
bro but I mean here’s my thing
45:48
I don’t think I’ve Diablo when I think RPG
45:51
you know yes of course there are de Armas a day and we don’t have that
45:55
argument but
45:57
you know that’s not what I think I think I’ve that went
46:00
you know like kill stuff yes right that such thing as a torchlight
46:04
the coven Diablo what do you think the Mass Effect story characters
46:08
growth change that to me is a
46:11
role playing game
46:14
yeah I think I love all those on the list is the obvious Jones
46:18
your but we don’t always go for the obvious choice on this panel
46:22
persona really I
46:26
for the golden was honored shit you know
46:29
in his brilliance somebody in the audience just tweeted their first tweet
46:33
ever to say the persona 4 was really really weak
46:37
way we talkin fighting game yeah arena up
46:40
well wrong I yup
46:45
you can see her in the hallway afterward yeah are you free 2d or 3d fighter
46:49
okay give a preference
46:53
a good
46:57
I do Hannah can’t believe you just called
47:02
and ok yeah we’re there’ll definitely be a meeting after this
47:06
so %uh the rest you can see it everybody in the hallway
47:09
you in the I
47:13
ok okay any other comments on a Mass Effect 3 will I think we are very but
47:18
you but RPG’s
47:20
you know I mean I’m mad I don’t do that tournament
47:23
cell as far as that goes I I picked it because they’re
47:27
had a feeling it was gonna win name it’s like that just go with the flow man you
47:31
know and it’s really a likely kevin is pretty amazing stuff so it’s like
47:35
you know haven’t played a ton of other ones in that that’s where you know
47:38
stuck out me so have you played the other ones appear Diablo Kingdom Hearts
47:42
starkly
47:43
you know I haven’t played actually
47:46
have inflicted martz or that’s okay yeah
47:49
ahead I other way the music in the commercials and beautiful
47:54
known but a he know I just like the Apple dimsum answers like that
47:58
at with the cup for me but you know in the next Kingdom Hearts we might see
48:02
Star Wars characters
48:03
yeah that’s like a really really hun solo we can only
48:06
he you it’s just
48:09
you know just see okay and we are now coming into the last category that will
48:14
be discussing his par this panel
48:15
and that is game love the year
48:19
whoop drum roll know flight details
48:22
yeah sry and we have a whole bunch of votes that with The Walking Dead will
48:27
win
48:28
but I hope people punch people think that journey should win
48:32
and again season this one’s tough because on the one hand you have jury
48:37
which we’ve already talked about its this incredibly emotional experience Inc
48:41
it’s incredibly personal experience it does all these new things
48:45
on it it basically takes the you know here’s how we do games
48:49
been and goes like that with it
48:52
on any get that for na mga you know it’s beautiful and the music is incredible
48:57
and it’s just this this
48:58
absolutely wonderful spirit and then we have the walking dead which is
49:02
basically adventure game which is when a girl this Chandra’s whatever most
49:05
familiar Somers Point click
49:07
and yet it completely modernized is it makes it feel fresh
49:12
I know I know people like a lie he did enter games but I love the walking dead
49:16
you know that happens a lot
49:17
because not only does it tell this
49:21
incredibly compelling story in an episodic format which to pick
49:25
which doesn’t happen a lot of its not a permanent really really hard to pull off
49:31
it for incredibly emotional journey but then
49:36
you think you know what’s going to matter in that game
49:39
and you don’t you get to the and and you’re just
49:44
ho got I’d but I didn’t I didn’t know
49:47
with his like life
49:50
you know you don’t play that you don’t make decisions in that game is a gamer
49:55
you make them as a person you make them as a human being
49:58
there’s one there’s one on a particular part they’re really stands out to me
50:01
and I want to spoilers distinctive tu que serve people in years to complete
50:06
it’s a jumper to and there’s a point where you have the opportunity to kill
50:10
a particular character and it makes sense this person deserves
50:15
it by any yardstick you use they deserve it
50:18
and as a gamer the choice to kill them
50:21
is obvious but clementine is standing right there
50:27
and so then you have to ask yourself wat what do I do
50:31
as a person who is now raising this child
50:34
thats video game is making you ask yourself
50:38
and that’s a remarkable experience and that’s wonderful that it can do that
50:42
om and so that’s why its
50:45
it will and can and should when in the air
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and a remarkable thing about the walking dead is it’s a
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a licensed property but even without the walking dead
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franchise attached to it this could have just banned eighties Omni
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and it would have still gotten the same amount to critical praise
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just for being an awesome game not for being
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a good apt Asian some other medium that we like
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yeah it doesn’t need the name at all to be to you
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be brilliant you’re absolutely right it’s neat to see that like
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you know that some it’s always like nice when someone can pull off like
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you know a franchise and actually do a good job with that you know like the
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safe like ice fishermen game was like this
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critical hit action the thank you etc
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but like the event it’s a great show you know but it doesnt think im insane
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if they worked early on its own it’s like great unit
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license games have historically bad reputation dating back to the
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a bit and yes in LJ ends adaptation a Back to the Future yeah
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by yeah but nowadays I mean The Walking Dead demonstrates that you don’t you
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need to be familiar with the original property
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you just play the game and appreciate as a game I mean I
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I I’m not a huge fan of the TV show not that I don’t like I just
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have really been exposed to it but that game it hooked me
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and Susan your review episode to I love that you said
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at the end the best praise you can give this game
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is don’t buy it yeah because the series wasn’t done yet and you couldn’t stand
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to be left
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hanging onto the edge of your seat am you want to win for the entire
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experience was available
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yep and just plow right through it like a whole season 2 DVD yeah it was
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genuinely painful to me to have to wait
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for each chapter to come our and see what’s happening because I cared so much
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about these characters and that’s me think about how much
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how impact on how incredible it is didn’t like about two hours
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other game to make you care about people who don’t exist
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n/a do it so really atlee that you’re in
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agony by the end to that game because you just want everything to be okay
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and it’s not because it was on the apocalypse and not know
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hey it’s Bobby apocalypse in in a very real
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meaningful way on I feel kinda sorry for people who are getting it in the bundle
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and playing it through all in
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one marathon session you know that playing it from
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you know over the course of a six-month period where you are just
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screaming what’s going to happen that’s part of the fun
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it’s like you know when people watch Lost on DVD
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and watch five seasons at once but those were there from the beginning we were
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jumping up and down for four months screening
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what’s in that god damn hatch yeah and you with that the walking dead
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yet every episode ends with big kaboom
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where you are just dying to find out what’s gonna happen
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added I enjoyed that despite all this praise that the panel has for
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The Walking Dead not many you voted that it should win not vote is going to
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journey
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so lovely how is if you could compare them which you had to how can journey
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why should really win over the walking dead I think the journey head
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The Walking Dead you have an emotional connection to that game
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I think that journey I the exact same emotional connection
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without it having any dialogue or having
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EU it one character and the storytelling was through
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like wall scroll kinda things and I think the way people that came of it
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sees
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get stellar I still don’t understand how earlier you were saying that
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the podcast is like no a great guy I can’t I can’t even
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a magic its one of my favorite games I
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truly love AK so I was like you should
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can you does journey even have a script
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no it has the I guess if you’d like a storyboard its kinda what it has
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that that’s kinda the best you getting out the game but the fact that
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you go through and that’s all they give you and when you come out the end you
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like
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holy crap that was amazing that I think that speaks wonders
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about what kind of game it is and that’s why even walking it is terrific I felt
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like journey
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probably should win just because it did the exact same thing
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without having to do nearly as much
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urine bottle with The Walking Dead I played the first two hours
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and I’m not one who tends to
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think back about what should I have done but I lost sleep that night
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I writing can I call my god I i know i just met these people and I’m not that
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attach them but I’m nonetheless responsible for them
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and that’s not something that I you know have experience with being responsible
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for who lives and who dies
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thank God I’m saying like its making you question the decisions
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as a person as opposed to what’s gonna give you the best score
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what’s gonna get me the best options you know it’s about Who Am I as a person
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and how do I really to the people around me and as the Irish what he just tweeted
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you wanna see who’s gonna die next
55:54
so how many the panelists replayed
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lorton get a second time to try to get it right
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her because I I considered my one playthrough
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to be the choice that I manger
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yes your head in fact I am
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I played the first chapter went for a second chapter
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and their my save was corrupted haha
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so I had to replay the first chapter again I made sure I made
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all the exact same decisions so that gap
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it’s the one true experience The Walking Dead minutes period
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while I’m sure the same holds true for journey as well
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now people play for two people replay journey yeah yeah I think that’s the
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point
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okay thank you again especially online for connect with other people
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how you will walk into that world just walk out you can stay together the
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entire time if you want or you can just
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go off on your own interview go over wrongdoing that person’s gone from your
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life for ever
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and even that sort of like oh we were besties and now you’re gone
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between what’s amazing to me is how
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much you can infer about the other person they all have the exact same
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tools from you
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this person you will love you will feeling very genuine bond
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this person exact same tool set annoys the shit outed
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the beeper the first thing the entire time
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and that’s your communication but sometimes get over communicate yes like
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me
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global and I’m over the Alexia
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so you really have to completely different games voting are vying for
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in the year and either one’s a great choice i mean they’re it but
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there’s no wrong answer there its its a matter of taste
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there’s no if you told me like over journey wins ago okay
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awesome know me walking there was about okay awesome both are correct
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your I’m a little dismayed that Mass Effect 3 wasn’t wanted the contenders
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for this category
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I’m don’t ask me man
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if you like Mac I feel like Mass Effect
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is suffering from its own success in that regard
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I feel like people went world of course it was good you know
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whereas with journey and walking dead but being brand new
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there was an element of surprise and we didn’t see this coming so I feel like
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they’re benefiting from now
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whereas every difficult %um after class and
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and we do have one book for Borderlands 2 now breaking
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and Far Cry 3 nobody vote for because it may excel in specific categories as an
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overall package
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as we need to consider when looking for the game year
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in case you’re wondering what all these beans are that have been sitting in
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front of us the last
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our we invited attendees a PAX East 2013 to visit the navigator both on the show
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floor
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and cast their votes for game of the year and we have not actually a hired a
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bean counter
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to figure out who the winner is but I would estimate from
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the quantity that we have The Walking Dead
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as should win and will win and we have a a close contender
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this is a here’s so here’s turns journey border
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here school
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we have we have two jars for each game will win and should win
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and so Borderlands Walking Dead and journey journey
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i right up there and not much for far cry or torchlight know nobody cares
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about her tight
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or spectrum’s swell for all Spec Ops
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all everyone should go play in that stories terrific
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them Sears and again as the panel said these are all fantastic games I mean
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there are no
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negative votes appear by you know if you are
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only have a limited time start with Walking Dead or journey and then work
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your way down
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the actual winners of the various categories all fifty plus categories the
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ones we review tonight and
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many others will be announced this evening on the navigator website
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so that is an AV GTR .org us the National Academy a video game
59:38
trade reviewers navigator .org and as you’ve
59:42
seen on this panel there are a lot of dissenting opinions out there a lot
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diverse opinions
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and that’s because we have so many fantastic games
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these this industry produces just remarkable
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remarkable products every year in so many different ways
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scriptwriting comedy-drama are costume design
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and you have a lot of ways to spend your time so thank you for spending some time
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with us
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have a great packs